Wednesday, February 25, 2009

Shante Carver, here is your response

Shante Carver recently contacted us and wanted to know why we consider him a bust. You can read his comments here and here.

Shante, we agree that your play in the NFL improved each year. In 1997, you started all sixteen games for the Dallas Cowboys. Because you played (and started) the full slate of sixteen, we feel 1997 would be the best season to examine and the best example for our defense:



In 1997, the Dallas Cowboys finished 6-10. You had six sacks in five games. In those five games, the Cowboys went 4-1. In the other eleven games, the Cowboys went 2-9. We believe that you had a direct, positive impact on the Cowboys. We agree that when Shante Carver produces numbers, the Dallas Cowboys are doing well.

Additionally, you played behind some big names on the Cowboys' defensive line. That, along with a variety of other reasons, prevented you from getting on the field. However, you overcame it and started 25 consecutive games to finish your NFL career (23 reg., 2 playoffs). You also recorded a sack in the last Cowboys' playoff victory ('96-'97, MIN).



Looking at your entire body of NFL work, though, we feel your impact—in terms of consistency and production—did not match expectations for a first-round (23rd overall) draft pick.

Production can only occur when you get on the field. Your NFL career lasted 4 seasons, with only one full season (1997). During that final stretch of 25 straight games as a starter, you only tallied 9 sacks. On the whole, you played in 52 of 64 regular season games, starting 26, and you played in 5 of 7 playoff games, starting 4. Over 57 games, you recorded 13 sacks.

A short NFL career, with limited statistical value and an inability to stay on the field, neither meets the expectations nor realizes the potential of a first-round draft pick. The above characteristics qualify you as a bust on the NFL level.


Carver (98), with the 1993 Playboy All-American team, defense.

This is not to say you were not a success on other levels—you were an All-American at Arizona State and a finalist for the Outland Trophy and Lombardi Award, after all. Your inclusion on the Cowboys bust list is simply reflective of NFL production with respect to expectations.

17 comments:

NFL Links said...

That's hilarious! Here's a hint...if you're contacting a blog to defend yourself, you probably didn't pan out as an NFL player.

Also, if you got hooked on the cocaine and now spend your days in a Stockton, California strip club...you probably didn't ever validate the first round pick the Cowboys wasted on you.

Anonymous said...

Actually he had been using cocaine and other substances since high school. The last team he should have gone to was the cowboys with their heavy substance abuse during the 90's.

Anonymous said...

Wow, that's a little critical of NFL inks and anonymous to say... His actions off the field didn't reflect in is skills on the field, give the guy some credit. Did you ever make it to the NFL or play in a SuperBowl? Gees... Shante Carver may have been short lived but in my book was a great player, just playing in bad times...

Anonymous said...

Shante is a wonderful person and was a hell of a football player and anyone that thinks differently is just an asshole. Let me guess NFL Links, you probably think Michael Vick is a dog lover too.....open your eyes.

Michael said...

I was trying to figure out why Shante only played 4 seasons in the NFL. The blogs here point to drugs but I don't remember that being reported back at the end of the 97 season but perhaps I forgot. In any case, posting 6 sacks in his only full season as a starter was not too shabby when you go back and look at the number of sacks other high drafted players or FAs like Charles Haley got as a Cowboy (he only posted double digit sacks once). Consider also the level of talent Shante played with and its a shame he couldn't have stuck around until Greg Ellis came along to put on the other side. Unless drugs was the problem I would have given him another contract.

Michael said...

I should have read what Shante blogged before posting my last comment. By his own words he obviously did have off the field problems (Cocaine addiction i presume) that sank his career. There is no doubt he could have been a good player by what he showed in his limited playing time. Its a shame because the knock on effect of having to go back to the well to try and draft another player with a another premium pick just added to the decline in overall talent on the team. Maybe if he stayed clean and continued to improve the team would have drafted a CB or a WR before we ever got to Duane Goodrich or the block buster Joey Galloway trade.

Anonymous said...

Wow so many people have so many dumb ass opinions about Shante Carver. He was not a bust in the NFL he did what Dallas needed him to do. I am a die hard Cowboy fan and was very satisfied with what he did for us. And I now know Shante Carver personally and i coach with him on football team called the West side Monsoon. It is a semi pro league in Arizona and he is helping guys become better athlets and I respect him as a person. Quit seeing him as a player he is a human being and made some mistakes in his past so what.Give it a rest bloggers and think before you right something and oh yeah if you have a comment for for me email me at bigtexas2424@yahoo.com I go by texas so hit me up.

jusbcuz63 said...

Shante Carver a bust?....I don't see it.....maybe his NFL career was shorter than what a lot of us wanted..... would say that about other players who never played again because of injury......? C'mon man.....he played on a team that had a rotation of quality players, that's what the coaches wanted, fresh legs for the entire 4 quarters....if you didn't know that, then you don't know shit about football, and you definitely aren't an expert........I've had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Carver at one of his Monsoon practices, after my son's youth football practice, and he's out there doing something and giving something back to the game. A lot more than I can say for some of the haters here, who probably couldn't make it thru one of our youth practices without throwing up.......Mr. Carver, you made it, very few of us can say that, and keep doing what you're doing.....whether you realize it or not, you're helping someone else to realize their dream.......Good Luck and GOD bless....Coach Joe, Legacy Football Academy, and also, Hoyas Football....

Anonymous said...

Omg people are so easy to judge someone and not even know them... saying he did drugs or lives in strip clubs thats funny.. also saying he wrote those post..how funny someone writes in and pretends to be him and barbie runs with it..how do we even know its him? All i know he was a good player and would of like to see him play more. I am so glad some people talk about him on the field than pretending to know him off the field.. NFL link I heard he was spending his days and nights raising his nieces and nephews not in strip clubs but god forbid he might have gone to one before and you exaggerate he spends all his time there..i am so glad there are perfect people in the world like you.

Anonymous said...

YOU ARE A BUST ON AND OFF THE FIELD......period.. thanks for sleeping with my wife in 2015 and destroying my family with 4 kids. enjoy the handbasket ride!

Anonymous said...

lol to those defending his fellow teamates made fun of how bad he was in his first training camp and wondered who was dumb enough to pick him please with the "he wasn't that bad" comments.

Anonymous said...

I heard he was homosexual........how did he get caught sleeping with someone's wife? Kind of hard to imagine someone who they say is gay doing that.

Anonymous said...

He isn't gay. I know his girl for year and she is hot enough to turn a gay man straight I doubt he cheated he'd be a fool.

Anonymous said...

He isn't gay. I know his girl for years and she's hot enough to turn a gay man straight I doubt he cheated he be a fool

Anonymous said...

Not sure about the gay part, but I KNOW the cheating part. It was my wife he did it with, and I have the proof. To the one who posted above, you said "doubt". As far as me, I have the proof. I feel sorry for his girl.

Anonymous said...

feel sorry for you having a trifiling wife if you have proof he probably did and that sucks she's a cool chick who would leave him if she knew.

Anonymous said...

I thought my wife cheated with one guy found out it was a few guys. I knew she lied alot I didn't know she was so good at it. Dating her friend now and finding out from her what a narcissist my wife was and glad I left her.